GiellaLT Documentation

GiellaLT provides rule-based language technology aimed at minority and indigenous languages

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Meeting setup

Agenda

Cf. one of the following, depending on context:

Opening, agenda review, participants

Opened at 10:36.

Present: Børre, Ciprian, David, Jovsset, Sjur, Thomas, Tomi, Trond

Absent: none

Agenda accepted as is.

Updated task status since last meeting

Børre

Ciprian

David

Jovsset

Lene

Per-Eric

Saara

Sjur

Thomas

Tomi

Trond

Pedagogical software online

Working on CG implementation for the ped software.

Meeting memos can be found at [http://giellatekno.uit.no/ped/index.html#Meeting+memos]

Corpus gathering

Børre and Ciprian suggests that we also store the corpus repository in svn, with access to it only for the corpus administrators. Ciprian suggests a slighly different model, where only the meta-information is stored in svn.

Trond suggests adding the original corpus files to rcs (as the metadata are today) (for log reasons), and then investigate whether we could set up some notification system (rlog the whole corp/$lang/orig/ catalogue, diff against previous, and mail the diff to whoever interested).

Sjur suggested using svn with filtering, such that the corpus files (bothorig and converted) are not available outside victorio, only the metadata. That is, to use access control to make sure the corpus files will stay on victorio (and secondarily on the G5/XServe).

Børre suggests a database system instead of rcs.

The problem with the present setup is that the corpus administrators are not informed about changes in the corpus repository, as well as a lack of a proper change history - we don’t know who did what when. This has lead to a number of unidentifiable files, or files without known history or origin.

TODO:

Promoting Divvun

TODO:

Future plans, directions and ideas

See a separate document in plan/strat/5year.jspwiki.

Infrastructure

To accomodate future enhancements in different directions (in rough order of importance):

  1. test bench for all parts of our language technology efforts
    1. test bench enhanced, but not yet complet
  2. set up the Leopard Server features for collaborative support:
    1. permanent chat rooms
    2. stored (and indexed) chat transcripts of the chat rooms
    3. iCal server / group calendars
    4. wiki
  3. wiki? on G5 (is part of Leopard Server) or other web-based documentation
  4. improve Forrest stability and i18n support ( the divvun crashes)
    1. Sjur has been working on better i18n and pdf rendering
    2. Børre has some ideas for getting back to serving static html files
  5. reorganise the documentation:
    1. differ between target groups
    2. get better grouping
    3. decide what to write in forrest and what in wiki (cf. Apertium and [http://xixona.dlsi.ua.es/apertium/]) for a similar split)
    4. update/add missing parts
  6. migrate lexc lexicons to XML, splitting the task
    1. Name lexica (the Name project)
    2. Dictionaries (already in XML, task is to integrate them)
    3. At least migrate the lexc open POSes (Komi as a pilot case)
  7. change the look of the documentation web
  8. sfst?
    1. replacement for xfst -> see [omorf | http://www.ling.helsinki.fi/kieliteknologia/tutkimus/omor/index.shtml], omorf wiki and omorfi
    2. replacement for hunspell/open-source proofing tools
  9. investigate the NSIS installer, potentially replacing the InstallShield package from Polderland
  10. corpus content moved to Max Planck repositories? Norsk språkbank?
  11. update infrastructure to allow content-restricted spellers for special target groups

SVN issues:

TODO:

Linguistics

North Sámi

(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)

http://giellatekno.uit.no/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=711

Lule Sámi

(nothing new, see proofing bugs below)

TODO:

South Sámi

TODO:

Name lexicon/risten.no infrastructure

TODO:

  1. fix i18n bug in risten.no/G5 (so they will work without the proper locale request) (Sjur)
  2. fix bugs in lexc2xml; add comments to the log element (Saara)
  3. finish first version of the editing (Sjur)
  4. test editing of the xml files. If ok, then: (Sjur, Thomas, Trond)
  5. make terms-smX.xml <=== automatically from propernoun-sme-lex.xml (add nob as well) (the morphological section should be kept intact, in e.g. propernoun-sme-morph.txt) (Sjur, Saara)
  6. convert propernoun-($lang)-lex.txt to a derived file from common xml files (Sjur, Tomi, Saara)
  7. implement data synchronisation between risten.no and the cvs repo, and possibly other servers (ie the G5 as an alternative server to the public risten.no - it might be faster and better suited than the official one; also local installations could be treated the same way)
  8. start to use the xml file as source file
  9. clean terms-sme.xml such that all names have the correct tag for their use (e.g. @type=secondary) (Thomas, linguists)
  10. merge placenames which are errouneously in different entries: e.g. Helsinki, Helsingfors, Helsset (linguists)
  11. publish the name lexicon on risten.no (Sjur)
  12. add missing parallel names for placenames (linguists)
  13. add informative links between first names like Niillas and Nils (linguists)

Dictionaries

TODO:

Proofing tools

Hunspell

The crashing bug has been identified, as being a problem with too many continuation lexicon, or more precisely, the aff table built by makealias creates cells with too many entries. Hunspell do not crash on Linux, which is using the latest version of Hunspell in the system. This might point to a version conflict, and that it is solved in the latest Hunspell code.

TODO:

OpenXSpell

Working everywhere (almost) in MacOS X applications, provides Sámi spell checking system-wide through a hunspell back-end. OpenXSPell

Update: The UTF-8 problem seems to have been a false alarm, but need to check it again for the letter ŋ. In other cases it seems to work ok as far as the characters are concerned. But the speller does crash after a while, for unknown reasons. It can be related to the Hunspell problem reported above by Børre, and it can be a problem in OpenXSpell. We don’t know yet.

TODO:

Testing

Spelling Error Markup

TODO:

Speller testing

The new test now working, altough not yet checked in to svn.

TODO:

Speller updates

TODO:

Speller bugs

List of bugs returned from Polderland: 621, 630, 652, 656, 676.

Open issues based on test results:

sme

Version: Davvisámi, version 1.0.1, 2008-09-25

smj

Version: Julevsáme, version 1.0.1, 2008-09-15

TODO:

Hyphenator bugs

Open issues based on test results :

sme

Lexicon version: Davvisámi, version 1.0.1, 2008-04-01

smj

Lexicon version: Julevsáme, version 1.0.1, 2008-04-01

TODO:

InDesign tools

Nothing new.

Releases

TODO:

Other

Forthcoming Sámi allaskuvla conference

Info on the conference site.

Title submitted is: Goallosteapmi ja suorggideapmi Divvun-reaidduin

Registration: [http://www.viaregi.no/registration/deltagerweb.aspx?kid=3440&aid=8700]

Registration deadline is September 10.

TODO:

Text to speech

Update: there can be something to listen to at the end of this week.

We are planning a North Sámi text to speech. Work on the text-to-transcription (ttt) component has begun, and for the transcription-to-sound we cooperate with U Hki. For a forthcoming october demo we have two alternative tracks:

  1. Do the ttt with quasi-Finnish orthography as output, and plug it onto the Finnish ttt (the Sámi-as-a-Finnish-priest solution) (pro: the web demo is there, so the demo is within reach; con: several phonemes are missing)
  2. Do the ttt with SAMPA as output, and read in 200 sentences, and have Hki generate a voice based upon that (pro: probably better result, head start on the project; con: we risk that is not be done by
  3. Do both in parallel. (pro: safety first, not much double work; con: well, the double work in the phon-sme.xfst file)

The best thing would probably be to do both tracks, to be on the safe side.

echo "23847 ja de mun ipmirdán ja 12° ja §12 ja 23,2 ja 23,- ja 23-23" | jietna.sh
kuokː.hte.lo.gi kolə.bmɑ tuː.hɑːh kɑːvht.tsiː tʃuo.ðiː ɲeæl.lje lo.giː tʃie.dʃɑ
jɑ te mun ip.mir.dɑːn jɑ kuokː.hte nup.pe.lohː.kɑːj grɑː.dɑ jɑ pɑ.rɑː.grɑː.fɑ...

TODO:

Corpus contracts + open source

Postponed until the svn repository is fully functional (it is too open now).

Next meeting, closing

The next meeting is 20.10.2008, 9.30 Norwegian time.

Thomas and Sjur will be off towards the end of the week due to autumn leaves in the schools. David will be away this Friday, and the coming Monday.

The meeting was closed at 12:30.

Appendix - task lists for the next five days

Boerre

Ciprian

David

Jovsset

Lene

Linda

Per-Eric

Saara

Sjur

Thomas

Tomi

Trond